Posts by Mistah MOJO

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WHY BIBLE PROPHECY IS COMING TRUE

by Mistah MOJO in

for the sake of argument let's say that you're a mad semitic "prophet" writing a few centuries bce, and you throw some cryptic references into your scroll about the messiah and some odd chronology as to when he will appear.

you make it into an interesting little math game to get and keep the attention of the reader and to give your scroll a mystical mysterious "deep" appearance.

you safely place the arrival of the messiah hundreds of yers in your future.. .

Mistah MOJO

Greetings Deputy Dawg!

I will attempt, in my humble and unschooled manner, to answer your reply. Be patient with me for I am not as clear a thinker as you are, and my vocabulary could stand some work.

I do in fact surf the Internet a great deal as part of my livlihood, since I'm a freelance writer under several pseudonyms, and it['s necessary that I stay abreast of the news. As part of this activity I read a great many (far too many for my digestive system to not becoming irritable) fundy and evangelical sites. When one can "get past" the screeching, the shouting, the mindless parotting of Bible verses, the predictable non-answers (just like Jo Jo's Witlesses), one one is left with is a residue of anger, hatred, bigotrry, and stupidity. Now then:

This post is not about peace in the Middle East, nor how to attain it. This post is about Biblical "prophecy" and how those who believe these prophecies to be Divinely inspired bring their "fulfillments" to pass. So, it would have been much more enjoyable to have read your thoughts on the actual post topic. However, I can tell by the tone and content of your response that you are in fact a Bible Republican. So, in a gentle spiriti of warm fuzzies n stuff, I will answer your post.

You wrote: "Did you ever think people are supporting the war on terror because we just don't want to give in to Muslim hatred? Would you like to see Israel destroyed? After they are done with Israel would you like to convert to Islam or see the US destroyed? Or do you think that Islam doesn't have these goals?"

One of the most precious things I learned in college was critical thinking. To question all of my assumptions, presumptions, and suppositions. I know one can get through college without really having thought much at all (especialy if it's a Bible "college") but thankfully such was not my fate. So I ask you DD:
Do you have the wherewithal to see the irony in your question? Here you are professed foot-step follower of the Prince of Peace (you know, the one who said such things as "love thy neighbor" "do unto others" "reward evil with good" "turn the cheek" you know, all that non-apocalyptic ethical and moral material you fundies love to ignore in favor of gee-whiz Bible prophecy) and you're talking to me about fighting Muslim "hatred" with more hatred? Fight fire with fire! Why not get your head out of your...old testament and give Jesus and Paul a read? You're a gentile who was never under the Law Covenant, so quit running to the OT to seek ethical and moral guidelines for yourself as a Christian under the New Covenant! It would be so nice to see the Fruits of the Holy Spirit, "LOVE JOY PEACE PATIENCE KINDNESS GOODNESS FAITHFULNESS GENTLENESS and SELF CONTROL" demonstrated in the collective behavior of the Fundiot Community.

You have ZERO FAITH in the commands of Christ on these matters, so you and your ilk come up with clever ways around these ethical commands with the most inventive Pharisaic sophistry imagininable, culminating in such DRECK as "dispensationalism" where all these inconvenient commands of Christ are safely relegated to some theoretical future Millennial Kingdom. That way, you can read those words, and feel and warm n fuzzy, but never feel the least compunction to actually BELIEVE AND OBEY! As I said, you lsck any faith that these methods ACTUALLY WORK! So you follow the commands of the evil god of this age, Satan, and follow his spirit of war and anger and hate! It took a HINDU, Mohandas Gandhi, to demonstrate that the methods of Christ actually work! Certainly not you "Christians" who wouldnt know Jesus if he passed you on the street.

"What? LOVE one o' them goddam MOOSLIMS? Whah, I'd ratha SHOOT EM UP lahk my REAL Gawd, JEHOVAH OF ARMIES wants me to!"

Have you considered that when you abandoned Jehovah A for Jehovah B (when you left WTS for EBS) you submitted to an even worse lunatic? At least Jo Jo of the WTS was only going to destroy "the unsaved" but YOUR Jehovah is going to THROW THEM INTO HELL TO BE TORTURED FOREVER! Now, remind me again, how is this an improvement? At least the Jehovah's Witnesses have enough sense to see that Jesus told his followers to NOT GO TO WAR! To be NO PART OF THE WORLD! But I digress...

Would I like to see Israel destroyed? No more or no less than I want to see Russia destroyed or China destroyed. Or France destroyed. Its so damned sad that you fundiots cant think for yourselves, but have to believe what some greasball that seems like a used car salesman has to say about the Bible. The Bible is very clear that Christians are to be no part of the world...friendship with the world is enmity with God...we are ambassadors of Christ...our citizenship is in Heaene...the wepons of our warfare are not fleshly...we must obey God as ruler rather than men..but instead of actually OBEYING you follow the zeitgeist, the world-spirit. Praise the Lard and pass the ammo! Read Romand and galatians for yourself sometime, without someone else telling you "what it means." Show me in THE NEW TESTAMENT:

That Christians are supposed to militarily support "Israel." Book: _____________ Chapter: _________________ Verse: _________________

That Christians are supposed to KILL for "Israel" Book: _____________________ Chapter: ________________ Verse: _________________

Well? SHOW ME!

Do I want to see the USA destroyed? Of course not. Do I foolishly think, as you do, that by printing "In God We trust" on our money and mentioning a Creator in our founding documents that we are thereby constituted a Theocracy in the eyes of God? That God was therby duty bound to make us the New Israel in his or her eyes? If so, why the fuss about the so-called "State of Israle/" Have you never read the Bible, Galatians I think, where Paul said we are neither male nor female, Greek nor Jew, slave or freedman in Christ, but are all ONE?" Thats why Christ said, 'MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD1 IF IT WERE, THEN would my people fight!"

Jesus didnt say "all men shall know you are my disciples by kicking Muslim ass for Jews" but by their LOVE. Is ANY of this getting thru that fundiot hide of yours?

ALL of your questions betray a COMPLETE LACK OF FAITH IN GOD AND CHRIST! You're afraid to say it, but whats going on in the back of your mind is: "Geez, if we actually OBEY Christ then..then..oh man all this bad stuff is going to happen!" So what if it does? Whats more important, obeying man or Jesus? Do I want to see USA convert to Islam? They seem only marginally more insane, violent, worldly, militarily besotted, war-mongering than American Fundiots. So, I dont really care. Islam can have any goals it wants, but I'll follow my own drummer come what may. Too bad you lack the conviction of your convictions. Now, if you're going to reply to my posts then follow the rules and STAY ON TOPIC. M'k? M'k. -MM

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WHY BIBLE PROPHECY IS COMING TRUE

by Mistah MOJO in

for the sake of argument let's say that you're a mad semitic "prophet" writing a few centuries bce, and you throw some cryptic references into your scroll about the messiah and some odd chronology as to when he will appear.

you make it into an interesting little math game to get and keep the attention of the reader and to give your scroll a mystical mysterious "deep" appearance.

you safely place the arrival of the messiah hundreds of yers in your future.. .

Mistah MOJO

For the sake of argument let's say that you're a mad Semitic "prophet" writing a few centuries BCE, and you throw some cryptic references into your scroll about the Messiah and some odd chronology as to when he will appear. You make it into an interesting little math game to get and keep the attention of the reader and to give your scroll a mystical mysterious "deep" appearance. You safely place the arrival of the Messiah hundreds of yers in your future.

Your scroll is widely read because of all the fantastic (in the dictionary sense) verbal imagery and powerful prose and predictions. Guess wht?

When those hundreds of years pass, your "prophecy" will indeed have "come true." There will be dozens of people claiming to be the Messiah when the proper time rolls around. People seeking power, fame, money, and ego trip, all of the above, will be clamoring for the ear of the public and making their claim. Of course I am referring to the "prophecy" in Daniel that gives a good idea when the Messiah would arrive. Lo and behold (surprise surprise) there were may claimants to that title when the time was right. Was this due to Divine Inspiration? Is that the ONLY reasonable answer?

Of course not.

Using Occams Razor we can shave all the horsefeathers off this claim by simply pointing out that its far more likely that, humans being what they are, any such famous well-known "prophecy" will find all too many folks willing to "fulfill" it.

The same is happening today in the Middle East. Fundamentalists and Evangelicals and other Biblical literalists are convinced that war in the Middle East, a final attack on Israel, etc etc, are "prophesied" in the Bible. So, what do they do? Exactly as the Jews did prior to being annihilated by the Roman army under General Titus. They "force Yahweh's hand" in bringing about the kingdom. What results is their near-extermination.

Today the same is happening. Republican fundies and evangels support all of these wars, attacks on the enemies of the ersatz Israel, because they believe they are helping to fulfill Bible prophecy and bring about the Great Trib, the Rapture, etc. If you doubt this you need to peruse fundy sites dealing with their belief they are forcing Yahweh's hand.

These Bible "prophecies" will indeed come true, to an extent, when the war of wars breaks out in the middle east and finally involves the world in a thermonuclear holocaust. There will be no meek to inherit the earth, however, and it will not be a paradise. MM

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Do you view yourself as a sinner? Are animals sinners too?

by jambon1 in

or is it just the case that people make mistakes.

some little, some big.

if the punishment for 'sin' is old age & death then are the animals sinners?

Mistah MOJO

LMAO! I often use this same argument with those who insist they and I are "sinners." MM

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False "Reasoning from the Scriptures" (all rights reserved)

by yaddayadda in

the reasoning from the scriptures book lists 7 criteria for determining which religion is right?

putting aside for the moment the assumption in the societys question, that there is only one right religion, which 3 of the societys criteria do you think are the weakest and which 3 are the strongest, and why?

(those who dont believe that the bible is gods word please try and suspend your disbelief when answering) .

Mistah MOJO

I agree with Cyberdyne. MM

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A Fair View of Fred Franz' Translation Abilities

by IW in

i thought these comments on channel c were fair views of fred franz' translation, not to mention a little surprising.

a breath of fresh air.

http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?frames=no&board=main&mode=current&message=21782.

Mistah MOJO

If you seek an painstakingly literal, consistent, and accurate translation look no further than the Concordant Literal New Testament with Keyword Concordance. mm

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A Fair View of Fred Franz' Translation Abilities

by IW in

i thought these comments on channel c were fair views of fred franz' translation, not to mention a little surprising.

a breath of fresh air.

http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?frames=no&board=main&mode=current&message=21782.

Mistah MOJO

I disagree. Yes, the NWT is the most doctrinally biased translation ever produced in English, but Franz was a schoolboy, out of his depth. MM

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 8-13-06 WT Study (YOUTHS CHOICE)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 08-13-06 wt study (july 1, 2006 issue date, pages 26-30 )(youths choice).

review comments will be in red.

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

Mistah MOJO

Blondie, you are one of the people here who are truly amazing in what you post. There are a handful of you here that I search for anything new that you've written. Thank you, and please keep enlightening us. MM

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The Jesus Papers

by Alpheta in

readers here may find this of interest, from the bar companion (biblical archaeological review) i received in email today (i'm a subscriber to the magazine).

it is a "preview" of a review of a new book.

http://www.bib-arch.org/bswb_bar/bswbba3205review.html.

Mistah MOJO

From personal experience, because I hobnob with some rich people who are into collecting art and other antiquities, I am amazed at what is floating around out there. I have held in my hand the actual ancient codex of a gospel that will never see the light of day. The owner is a devout Roman Catholic who bought it just so it would remain forever hidden away. It will be bequeathed to a specific department of the Vatican upon his death. This is no fraud. It's been carbon 14 dated as well as dated by non-destructive methods such as orthography and microscopic examination of the vellum and leather. Its the real deal. No, I have no clue as to why this gentleman wishes it to remain forever unknown. MM

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If there is no hell what is this?

by Rooster in

"but a certain man was rich, and he used to deck himself with purple and linen, enjoying himself from day to day with magnificence.

but a certain beggar named laz arus used to be put at his gate, full of ulcers 21

and desiring to be filled with the things dropping from the table of the rich man.

Mistah MOJO

The world you now inhabit is hell. We shield ourselves from the raw truth about existence here. But yes, the Bible does teach several fates of "the wicked." Annihilation, eternal torment, and Universal Reconciliation.

I opt for the last one. It makes God and Christ into beings one could love, if they're real.

MM

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Fact Jews Returned In 538 BC Kills Off Watchtower Chronology

by AlanF in

the watchtower society's 1914 chronology hinges on a dicey chain of claims.

if any of these claims is wrong, then the chain is broken and watchtower chronology collapses.

along with it goes the entire belief structure built on it, including most importantly the claim of the leaders of jehovah's witnesses to have been specially appointed in 1919 by god over "all christ's belongings" on earth.

Mistah MOJO

You're right, of course, and hopefull the JWs lurking here will have a seed planted deep in their subconscious. Thanks.

MM